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The month that won't end

August 27, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life  |  No Comments

Another weekend went by and I've just returned from another trip.  This month I had the LA trip built around the big wine dinner that included some gambooling, an Arizona trip to do a whirlwind family tour and a big birthday party for Courtney's grandmother, and just got back from another LA trip with decidedly less gambooling and more working.  We had a DeucesCracked.com meeting and even enticed Entity to fly down for a couple days, as we are working on a bit of an update to the site (understated in case it sucks) :) :)

I have managed to play like 5k hands of poker this month but luckily running well and still doing good with my single tabling heads up, I hope that can continue as I find myself filling my time with not that much pokering recently.  Guess I don't have too much to report other than because of Beset's awesome PLO videos and articles I've been trying that game out a little and I feel like since I actually got competent at NL in the recent past I have a clue how to play PLO and I like heads up anything these days so I'm giving HU PLO a shot when I don't feel like min-betting all the time :)

Ok better updates soon I hope and a new video this week!

LHE players learning PLO

August 21, 2007 // Posted by beset in Poker Strategy  |  1 Comment

Below is a post I made to a mid stakes shorthanded LHE player who was asking about mid-limit PLO game quality and what advice people might have for a LHE player looking to learn PLO. Given the large population of LHE players here I thought this might interest you all.

Games and Bankroll. The games are still very good though you will have to practice game, seat and session selection similar to the way you must these days in SHLHE because there are not a million games at each site. When I say session selection I mean the time of day. But yes, the games are very good from 2/4 to 5/10. I will caution you, however, that these are much bigger games then the same limits at NL. The variance according to PT databases I have from NL and PLO is nearly double in PLO for most players. A little gamble in terms of bankroll requirements is going to add misery to your life in PLO more so then any other game. If you are playing short money-wise, just do yourself a favor and think of the game as glorified blackjack.

Omaha is still more popular in Europe so the games have been less affected by the legal climate changes. If you have access to non-US sites this can be a nice bonus but between PS and FTP you will still be OK.

Fish Protection. Omaha's positive attributes are actually very similar to SHLHE in my opinion. It is an action game with lots of big pots. Also, it has built in tilt-protection for when the fish or normally solid players go off. Much like in LHE, the fish are kept alive by the fact that when they lose it after a string of draw-outs they are likely to end up shoving a bunch of 30/70s and 40/60s instead of in NL where they will get absolutely obliterated as soon as they start to tilt.

Also, the game is enticing to fish and pro alike because it has the appearance of engaging complexity which is somewhat of a mirage but makes people feel sophisticated and entertained while playing a real gambling game, not some battle of wits for serious and boorish money-maker clones.

High-variance games give skilled players an edge because they have the experience, bankroll and emotional control to ride the waves. Remember that built in tilt-protection I mentioned? PLO facilitates bad habits in people. They lose–they tilt, they get even. It happens over and over. Until it doesn't and they pour gasoline on the fragile fire that was once their bankroll. We sit there and wait for this.

The Best vs. The Solid. The best from the solid PLO players are separated by subtle factors. First, the best have balance to their aggression. Yeah it’s fun to re-raise low-runs and so forth with position, but relentlessly pressing people in this game with no balance is a losing strategy. The players in the mid/high games who really give me trouble are like manic/depressive Irish drunks. You never know when things will get hairy and dangerous and it’s uncomfortable because of the dissonance. SHLHE players should understand this. It’s the difference between good-LAG and LAG-monkey.

PLO is a game of value. Implied odds, as illustrated by recent discussions on 2+2 in the “There is no such thing as implied odds in PLO” thread, are a complicated and ambiguous discussion in this game. Look for equity edges and push them—don’t get in the habit of over-estimating draws and calling large turn bets with shallow money. This will add pointless variance and lessen your earn.

Moreover, the best players practice good table and seat selection, tilt control and the basic but not-widespread ability to actually know what sort of equity you are likely to have with your holding on the flop/turn versus your opponent. I know the prior sentence is a description of poker itself drastically simplified. In Omaha, however, you have relatively decent players who probably couldn't tell you what kind of equity they had in a hand even if all the cards were turned face up.

Lastly, as you move up in stakes, stealing small pots from weak/tight regulars is an important pursuit. I wouldn't worry about this at first and just focus on understanding position, pre-flop play including the value of positional raising, out-counting/basic equity calculations and value betting.

Mini Commerce Trip Report

August 12, 2007 // Posted by Sean in Poker Strategy  |  No Comments

Mini Commerce trip report

I leave wednesday afternoon at an incredibly reverse strategic time so I get stuck in San Diego, Oceanside and LA traffic. Sit in a 60 game which is not so great for the first 8 hours but various weak players fill in after this and after each one goes broke a new one shows up that is even worse so I am literally unable to leave. I quit after like 23-25 hours after one of my meals makes me feel like I'm gonna asplode. -$500 for my efforts (+900 in 40 in like 15 minutes, -1400 in 60 for infinite hours). I believe the most I was ever winner for the day was about 2k but I never really got much going.

Next day play about 8 hours of 30 Stud because I woke up at 3am and it was either that or 40 holdem and Stud was gonna be more fun. Lose 500 there basically losing every big pair and finally a 60 game starts and I play for 6-7 hours winning a staggering $700. Go to Mike L's little party which takes the rest of the night.

Saturday sit in 60 again nothing goes my way over about 5 hours until I just leave frustrated with what is slowly approaching a fun little 400 hour breakeven stretch stuck about 3k. On the way home I decide I need to stop at Ocean's. A 40 game starts so I play, game is great with many horrible players. I explode to a great start 2 racks winner, then get railed over and over to 1.5 racks loser and then things slowly turn around and I quit almost 3 racks winner after about 10 hours I believe. Upon arriving at home a few minutes ago I see that the Wii I got with some Stars points arrived so that should provide some entertainment.

Disappointing to not win but it has pretty much gotten to the point where I don't care that much after getting pounded session after session lately. I am sure that I play better when I am running well but I know I am playing winning poker. At some point things will go back to the way they should be with sets holding up on ragged rainbow flops and flushes holding up against 1 pair making a backdoor full house. When those days return it will be glorious indeed.

They still allow gambling at Commerce

August 12, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life, Poker Strategy  |  4 Comments

After the shockingly few limit games in Vegas during the WSOP, we were all definitely concerned that NL-fever had completely taken over, and along with the online busto-ness of last year's limit superstars due to legislation, lack of games, and whatever other factors cause busto-ness in previously non-busto limidonks, I was pleasantly surprised to find limit hold'em alive and thriving in LA this weekend.  I didn't make it over to the Bike (where they are having preliminary tournaments for the Legends of Poker) but heard they had a 200/400 or bigger limit game every day and some big mix games as well.  I did play a lot of 100/200 at Commerce and there were bigger games going every night behind us, so I guess the well isn't dry yet.

As for me, I played a long session on Thursday and got stuck bigtime despite having the best seat at the table on the left of the worst player (by far!) in the game.   After not having played live poker since the WSOP this was not the way to get back into the swing of things.  I quickly corrected the problem by running hot the next day and winning a quick 5k in 1.5 hours before we had to go to dinner.  The highlight was this hand: Cece raises UTG, I 3 bet next with 9d9c, some guy calls 3 cold behind me, SB caps it (ruh roh), we all call.  Flop is AK8 all diamonds, SB bets, Cece raises, I 3 bet it (open to arguments on this but I think it's clearly correct), guy behind me folds TT with the Ten of diamonds, SB caps we both call.  Turn is a black 9 (obviously), SB now checks, Cece bets, I raise, SB coldcalls, Cece calls.  River brick and they both call me. AK for SB, and set of 8s for Cece and I had the only diamond after I got the guy behind me out.

We went to Campanile for dinner where Mike L. had organized quite a wine-tasting affair with a 5 course tasting menu to accompany.  JA Sucker was in town so I finally got to meet him and share some good food and wine.  Afterwards we trolled around in Beverley Hills for a bit before Brad L., Prevaricator, and I ended up in downtown LA at a homegame of a high stakes Commerce regular.  This was no ordinary homegame, with a paid dealer, the who's who of high stakes mixed games playing 10/20 NLHE and PLO mix, in a sweet downtown highrise loft with a great view of the city (when no smog of course) and all the baller furnishings you would expect.  I watched the big bet game for a bit and then wound up playing Chinese Poker all night and losing lots.

Saturday I grinded 100/200 all afternoon and evening and won a bit more to get around even for the trip after all the expenses and gambooling, and I drove home happy to end on a good note.  I was tempted to play in the bigger games running while I was up there but I feel like I need to get on a decent run in the 100/200 since I didn't fare so well during the WSOP in that game and I'm just breaking even at live play recently.  That said I feel I actually play very well in the bigger games because I am super-focused and I have a pretty good feel / experience with the high limit Commerce LAGs who populate those games. Maybe next trip I guess.

This week I have errands to take care of, a video to make for www.deucescracked.com and then Courtney and I drive out Thursday to Arizona for the weekend to do some family stuff.

July in the Books

August 5, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life  |  No Comments

July started out rough, with another fruitless WSOP trip that I've whined about enough.  I came home determined to play better and I think mentioned in a previous blog post I was only single tabling and playing lots of HU.  Well add those elements to my laziness and the result was about 6k hands of HU for the month which was basically all my online play.  I would have logged a few more hands near the end of the month but last weekend I went to Vegas for a short trip for Joe Tall's wedding!

The poker player wedding guests stuck together and we were very lucky to have Tommy Angelo make a rare appearance for the festivities and pick his brain a bit.  I couldn't be more excited for a new poker book than I am for his, which I hope will broach the only remaining poker subject I find interesting to read about – how to improve at poker in ways besides strategy during hands.  The wedding was Saturday so Sunday BigBabyDougie and I played a long session of 2/5 NL at the Wynn where I was able to soak up some NL knowledge from him and swing wildly in a great game.  That night I went to dinner with Brad L, TT, and Prevaricator to the new restaurant at Venetian – B&B (Mario Batali's restaurant [sp?]).  We had one of the best meals of my life, not just in Vegas, it was incredibly good.  Monday I just relaxed and had some yummy sushi with Dougie before my flight – all in all an excellent Vegas trip, nice and short, made a bit of cash, ate some great food, and got out without getting sick :)

So the July results, despite only 6k hands, provide some good evidence that this single tabling thing might work well for me – I ran at 6.5 bb/100 over those 6k hands so made some decent money even though I'm playing fairly low stakes.  August is off to a good start as well, though it's going to be an extremely busy month for me.  Next weekend I'm up to Commerce for a few days for some good food and some live gambooling, the weekend after Courtney and I are in Arizona for a family function, I have plenty to keep me busy on www.deucescracked.com, I'm doing a bit more poker coaching and hope to offer some interesting things on DC.com regarding that, and oh yeah I need to keep logging those hands!

Finally, I almost forgot, but I got my Neteller money!!! Many many many months of not knowing whether I was going to get my money, and pretty much counting it lost, this feels like quite a victory despite the fact that the reality is I lost out on the interest et. al. of having MY money for that time period, but I'm just happy to get it back, whew!  Safe from BUSTO for another little while.