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Update from donkville

June 30, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life  |  1 Comment

Sort of don't have a lot to report.  Many 2+2er friends are in town now so I've been having fun hanging out with them and playing some silly low limit mix games.  Tonight we played a nice 40/80 game with a must straddle for awhile – actionnnn!! Me, Daver, CDC, Clarkmeister, Doughhater, Gonores, and a few random Vegas locals were the lineup and I swung wildly up and down a couple racks before quitting $80 winner!

I have a friend playing the Triple Draw with rebuys event that I decided not to play ($$$) and he made day two so hopefully he gets lucky tomorrow and goes deep.  I haven't yet been in the Bellagio despite 48 hours in Vegas but hopefully will get some 100/200 in soon as I need to be a good boy and put some work in.

Vegas Part Deux

June 28, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life, Psychology  |  No Comments

Well I had a chance to recover and I'm finally not sick after the last Vegas trip. How to celebrate?? How about we go to Vegas!! Joe Tall and I are driving out later this morning for several days of fun.

While I was home I managed to play a tiny bit of online poker, to reduce the nastiness that was the start of this month.  I've decided to single table a bit, mostly because it is similar to all the live play I've had recently, but also I feel like I'm playing extremely well when focused on one table – I managed to make a great www.deucescracked.com video at 15/30 while doing so, and get in a couple other solid sessions.  I'm using the TiltBlocker tool now every session which is a great resource and really helping me out.  It goes along with a thing I'm doing at live play where I stack my chips in random super-tall stacks so I'm not tempted to count them after every pot I win or lose – much better for sanity and caring about the more important things at the table.

This Vegas trip I intend to destroy the cash games, and win the limit shootout on Tuesday.  Here's hoping..

Updates from Vegas to come!

A Subtle B&M Session

June 26, 2007 // Posted by beset in Life  |  No Comments

I had a very engaging experience playing live limit hold em’ recently.  Query whether it will come across in type but I will write it down anyway.   

I started playing about 18 months or so before the second wave of the poker boom (which I conceive of as Moneymaker winning the ME, the first wave being Rounders).   B&M first and then I discovered Paradise Poker, deposited and starting playing anything but hold em’, a game I found confusing challenging.  Live however it’s always been LHE.  Regardless of what game, for the last 5+ years the games have been good.  I’ve never had a hard time finding good games to play in and for a long-time it was very rare that I ever ended up in a game where I thought I wasn’t the best player at the table.  This changed as I moved up to mid-limit games but even then, the games never seemed tough so much as not-as-good. 

Lately, in the neighborhood I live in, the local gambling commission raised the maximum bet at a poker table from $25 to $40.  These are very small card-rooms which on a busy day will have 8 tables going with some rarely maintaining a game and if it does goes it’s 3/6 or 4/8.   There has only been a couple of long-running 12/24 games and even the reservation casinos only rarely get anything higher then 30/60.  The 12/24 games promptly bumped up to 20/40 in light of the rule change.  This had two consequences.  First, players who playing 30 and up when it goes on the reservation or just play online started popping up to play.  I know to all you jaded young online poker superstars 20/40 doesn’t seem like a big game.  My neighborhood, however, is full of white trash and recent immigrants.   20/40 is huge.  You raise the river and that’s groceries for the week.     The second and even more unfortunate consequence was that the game promptly busted a bunch of regulars and a couple major fish went on sick heaters and then quit playing.  The fact that these events killed the game shows you how fragile it was to start. 

Back to my story—many have been slow in hearing that the 20/40 games died.  So, a different crowd has been showing up to the local places looking for the 20/40 and then deciding to play lower since they came out.  I rarely play live anymore but I stopped in the other day and lo and behold I sat down in what had to be the toughest 8/16 game in the universe.   It was 2am, very very quiet and people were FOCUSING.  This was fucking shock to me.  There were four people at the table with very confident attitudes playing solid aggressive poker.   It took me a good 45 minutes to accept that I wasn’t making it all up in my head.  This was a legitimately tough game. 

I sat there and watched the hands play out and it was tangible to me that each person was actually thinking and acting intentionally as opposed to spraying chips, tilting, calling off racks and lighting money on fire.  Even the most basic and standard hands were being played with thoughtfulness and intentionality.  Obviously I can’t read minds so all of this was coming to me just based on body language, attitude and the occasional comment.  It was both engaging to watch and saddening at the same time.  I for one have plenty of challenges in my life.  Poker for me has always been about making money in a free and unstructured environment where I feel comfortable and independent.  I don’t play poker for the challenge.   

The first tough 8/16 game in the state of Washington and caused me to reflect on the last stretch of my life and see a shape to it.  A cultural progression that happened totally independent of me but that I participated in and profited from.   It is thought-provoking to watch it change, progress and decline all at the same time.  The games will stay good and those who play for the challenge or profit with discipline and focus can make it happened.  The atmosphere has definitely shifted however and it is objectively fascinating to me watch the collective skill level rise, as even the fish seem to know when to be embarrassed and self-deprecating after a poorly played hand  and I rarely am so bold as to declare myself the best player in the game.

If Joe Tall can be a Daddy…

June 21, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life  |  No Comments

Courtney and I were ready to expand our family upon my return from Vegas:

Xerxes
Xerxes

Leo
Leo

Sleeping Kitties
Sleeping Kitties

As you can imagine they are keeping us busy but soon we'll get used to having them running around and I'll get back to poker. I've been sick since getting home from Vegas so as soon as my voice can handle it I intend to make a www.deucescracked.com video and then grind some hands! Back to Vegas next week I think.

Let me out of Vegas!

June 18, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life  |  3 Comments

More days in Vegas, more grinding 100/200.  I've done nothing the last two days but eat yummy food and break even at poker.  Every day I win two racks in the 100/200 I quickly lose it back to start the next day. I am going home tomorrow for awhile, so done with poker.  I am just below even for the trip after paying expenses and a 5k tournament buyin, obviously I'll take it but man for 10 days in Vegas and all the hours I've logged a decent win would have been nice.  I feel like I've played great poker this trip but just can't string a couple wins together, but I am enjoying playing limit again I guess so that's something.  Hopefully when I get home I can win money online at that silly game.

Flight tomorrow, catch up on normal life, get a kitten with my wife, make DeucesCracked videos, and sleeeeeep.

Live pro poker grinder

June 15, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life, Psychology  |  2 Comments

Let's see…played lots of poker the last couple days.  I played 100/200 at the Rio two nights ago and took a loss in a great game, nothing really exciting about it just didn't win many hands, no biggy. Went to sleep not very frustrated which was good.  Then when I woke up yesterday afternoon I headed to the Bellagio and jumped into a must move 100/200 that was a pretty tough lineup for 1/2.  It wound up being me, jgorham, david baker, Ian J, CMO (who is my absolute kryptonite incidentally, he owns me every hand I can ever remember against him), unknown TAG kid, two tight old guys, and one semi-fish.  I lost 6k before winning my first pot with run of the mill cold decks and standard missing flops with overcards etc. but was playing well and wound up going on a nice rush and getting it all back plus 5k.

I am doing a new thing where I stack my chips in randomly super tall stacks so I don't feel tempted to count them so when I left for dinner I was pleasantly surprised to be up as much as I was after the rough start.  Stinkypete, RT, and I went to the Wynn to meet some NL guys from 2+2 and IRC and had dinner at the Country Club Grill out on the patio overlooking the Wynn's golf course. Man what a fantastic place to eat – the view is incredible, peaceful, with a huge waterfall over the fantastic golf course, and the food was awesome too.  So far all the Wynn restaurants I've been to have been just outstanding.

After too much wine Stinkypete and I headed to the Wynn poker room and started a short 40/80 mix game where Pete went busto because he's a fish and I played some guy heads up for a bit and broke around even.  He went to bed and I went to the Bellagio where I couldn't get in a 100/200 game right away so I played more 40/80 mix and wound up just playing that until morning and winning a bit.  It was nice to play in such a soft game though as my recent mix game experience hasn't gone well, but these guys were pretty mediocre at all the games and I even ran well and played ok at Omaha/8, my worst game by far.

Now I'm about to pack up and check out of my Flamingo room, headed to meet up with Entity and stay in a new spot for the weekend.  Also I fear I may be getting a cold so I'm fighting that off with Vitamin C and eventually, sleep.

Planning

June 14, 2007 // Posted by Daver in Poker Strategy  |  1 Comment

So I'm going to be in LV early July. I've talked to people at Caesar's about getting a WSOP rate and apparently there are two–one for people who play in "the WSOP" and one for those who don't. Obviously I'd like the cheaper rate for playing in "the WSOP" and I do, in fact, intend to play a smaller NL event, but it's unclear from the people I've talked to on the phone at Caesar's whether that will count. Anyone here have a definitive answer?

Also, anyone who knows PBob should peer pressure him into going that week as well. The fun-factor will grow exponentially.

Bet your damn hands!

June 14, 2007 // Posted by Private Joker in Poker Strategy  |  1 Comment

The river. It's a legendary street in Texas hold'em; fortunes are made and broken. However, most people, now having seen all 7 cards they can use to make the best 5-card poker hand, are no longer interested in wagering against the other players on the value of this hand. This strikes me as curious. After all, wouldn't you be more inclined to wager once you have the maximum information about your own hand — and 5/7 worth of information about your opponent's hand? But no: everyone is so excited that the drawing of cards is over that they must see the showdown immediately and find out who won the pot.

This fear of value-betting rivers is not an isolated symptom found among a few people here and there. In fact, we all go through it in our stages of poker play. Most of us, when we begin, freeze up when a scare card comes on the river and don't bet our hands. Later on, even once we understand poker theory, still chicken out and check/call when we've been betting the whole hand — even when in the back of our minds we understand that bet/fold is much more +EV.

Even though I've definitely improved in this regard, I'd say my river play is my weakest spot of my game. Sometimes I try too much to induce bluffs instead of betting and hoping to get calls from ace-high. Sometimes I'm guilty of being sure that scary river just nailed my opponent's draw. But as much as I'm hard on myself for weak river play, it's my opponents who constantly astound me with their reluctance to value-bet rivers.

The first minor example I have from a recent session at Commerce 20/40 (remember, folks, this is Medium Stakes hold'em — not a 3/6 game, not pennies here, people who have actually played enough poker to think it's a good idea to buy in for at least $500 of their hard-earned taxi-driving fares) is a lady who held 32o in the BB and faced a flop of T43. She checked, a tight, old, unimaginative player bet somewhere, and only she called. Turn was a 2, and lady bet out her two pair. Old guy called. River is an A. Lady disgustedly checks. Old guy is happy to see a free showdown with his QTs and the lady is even happier that old guy didn't hold a 5 for the straight. What hand can he bet the flop with that includes a 5??

I guess I'll forgive her for fearing that weird runner-runner wheel (partially because I guess AT is in his range, but it's still an easy bet/fold on that river…. but mostly because I loved playing with her — she was awful and played every hand and was just a calling station idiot), but I won't forgive this one hilarious idiot. Actually, before I get into his story, let me relate one hand I played against this lady that fits with this post because it involves another river check-around:

I limped behind a few limpers in the CO with Jd8d. Button folded, blinds completed/called. Flop came Js5s2h. Checked to her in EP and she bets out, folded to me and I raise, blinds fold, lady looks at me and goes, "you have flush draw?" and calls. This is a great live tell that almost always means she has a flush draw. So I tell her, "Yes. I have a flush draw." The turn is an Ac, and she goes "OK then I bet" and donks into me. I raise again because fuck her, MHIG most of the time and I'll take a free showdown because betting the river would be bad against a missed flush draw or an ace that has me beat. She calls my raise and the river pairs the 2 (non-spade). She checks and I check, I show and she mucks. This is a case where I'm pretty sure the FSD play was correct, but I don't do it all that often.

OK, on to the hilarious idiot guy. So I limp behind a couple limpers in MP with XX (I'll reveal my hand later). Guy limps on the button with QJo. The flop comes As Td 5c. That's a dry rainbow flop if you've ever seen one. Checked to me and I come out betting. Start putting me on a hand if you want, but I'll spoil it and say I'm likely to have an ace here. Guy calls with his gutshot. There's one more caller somewhere. The turn is a Kd, completing his nut straight. I bet again, and he raises. Other guy folds, and I sigh and call and check dark. The river brings the harmless 2d (yes, a possible backdoor flush, but I have an ace here most of the time, so please bet your broadway) and guy sees the river and goes "did you check?" and I nod and he quickly tables his hand. I sheepishly table Ad 6d for the nuts and he smugly — proudly — crosses his arms that he avoided a river checkraise. Another guy not in the hand starts discussing the river with him, and somewhere in there I think I hear me being criticized for not betting the river and him praised for not betting it. His response is "Hey, I'm not gonna bet that shit, what if he made a flush? If I bet I lose another 80 dollars maybe, but if I check and win the pot, I'm happy to win the pot!"

Just to discuss my play for a second, I hardly ever check dark and I almost always bet my hands OOP on the river when I make them because I know people get passive on the river. But in this spot, I had a great read on him that QJ was his hand, and there's no way he can put me on diamonds when it's clear I was betting the flop and turn with top pair. It's a well disguised flush draw and this is as good a spot as any to get in a river checkraise. He has to pay me off with Broadway, right? How the hell does he not bet that river?! Anyway, the funniest thing about this hand is the consequences it had.

First, a few hands after that — when idiot is still frustrated/steaming that I "sucked out" on him with the river flush, but still basking in the pride of avoiding the river c/r I had planned — I show him how fucking value-betting is fucking done at Commerce, boy. There were a couple limpers and a sLAG raised from the hijack. I floated on the button with JTs. Blinds called and it's a nice pot to a flop of JTx. Sweetness. Checked to sLAG who bets, I raise, idiot looks at me in the BB and says "I got a funny feelin' I should actually call this" but he folds, muttering something about sLAG possibly 3-betting. We get one cold-caller, and sLAG just calls. The turn is an A (also putting a 2nd club out there and completing Broadway for KQ). The sLAG donks into me so I raise again. The cold-caller folds. The river is a low club making a possible flush, sLAG checks, and I value bet like a standard winning player would. sLAG calls, I show, he mucks.

I know the idiot was paying close attention to this hand because he folded what he thought was a good hand on the flop. It's clear my top 2 was superior, but I'm wondering to myself if he noticed my river value bet. I wasn't afraid of KQ and I wasn't afraid of the backdoor flush. Because the sLAG would have checkraised KQ on the turn, I thought at worst I'm losing to aces up but I won't get checkraised anyway, but more likely he just has a hand like A9, AQ, AK and will pay off. And that's what happened.

Because I don't educate the fish, I didn't go over to the idiot and point this out. But I think he actually noticed, because a hilarious hand ensued shortly thereafter where he totally misapplied his newly learned lesson about betting rivers. He was losing enough to be on tilt now, so he limped in EP with T9o (actually this is standard for him, he had limped K3s and 87o before, and defended his BB with Q2o) and saw a multiway flop of A87r. The sLAG bet in LP, he called, and another decent player called. The turn was a Qc putting a second club out there, and the same action occurred. The river was a 6c completing the flush. Now, last time, this idiot specifically told the entire table out loud how he's just happy to win a pot with a nut straight, and doesn't want to get raised by a flush. He said this when he was in position, heads-up. Now he is out of position, in a 3-way pot, and apparently he changed his attitude because he bet out the river. Second guy looks like he is considering raising but just calls, and then the sLAG who had been betting the whole hand instaraises. Idiot calls and the other guy calls too. Other guy had a J-high flush (with a flopped gutshot), sLAG had Ac 3c for the nuts, and the idiot goes on ballistic tilt upon coming in 3rd.

Psshhh… some people never learn.

Shorter and better session, yay!

June 13, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life, Poker Strategy  |  No Comments

I woke up early after sleeping only 5 hours or so and headed over to the Rio to have breakfast (for me) / dinner (for them) with TT and Brad L.  We went to Gaylord's which is an Indian place and really yummy and I had good lamb and Indian beer.  Brad and I found a nice 100/200 to jump into at the Rio and the game was fantastic.  The Rio games definitely appear juicier than the Bellagio games, but the hit or miss dealers and lack of comforts of the Bellagio top section make it a closer decision.

I finally ran sick good today, though I played 6 more hours and still haven't had AA in over 30 hours of live play this trip.  I did get KK and QQ like four times each in six hours though, including a sweet hand where David the Dragon Pham raised UTG with KK, I 3 bet QQ UTG+1, David Baker coldcalled AA in the SB, the Dragon 4 bet, I capped it, Baker gets to call two more bets with aces and the perfect trap set, and the flop comes QJ9 :) :)

He slightly got me back when I raised 98cc, someone 3 bet KK, he 4 bet TT in the BB, we called.  Flop was the solid TT7 with two clubs giving me OESFD, I raised, the kings coldcalled, he just called. I turn the 6 (not straight flush sadly) right away and lose 4 bets and pay off the river like a fish.  If I river my two outer there I'm pretty sure he has to quit poker forever.

Sleepy now, staying at Flamingo til Friday then Entity and Joe Tall come and I'm crashing with Entity somewhere til I'd guess Sunday.  Won a hot 8k today so I'm now slightly up for the trip covering my 5k tourney buyin!

Long Session

June 12, 2007 // Posted by DeathDonkey in Life  |  2 Comments

I woke up at 7 pm after catching up on my sleep and went to sushi dinner with StinkyPete, and met JCmousssa, thebruiser500, 1800gambler, and Lyric.  I always enjoy meeting 2+2ers / poker players and these guys were no exception, plus Lyric brought his too hot girlfriend who plays poker and seems to be completely cool.  I decided they all have too much money though and I'm jealous and spiteful.

After that I went to Bellagio and got in a 100/200, where I stayed (switching to the main game eventually I guess) for 11.5 hours.  I didn't have any big swings, staying +/- a rack or so the whole time, playing well but never getting anything going.  I wound up winning a rack and Stinkypete dragged me away for some yummy  crepes for breakfast.  I realized afterwards that I haven't had AA or KK in 25 hours of live play on this trip.  That is pretty sick and probably speaks volumes as to why I'm down on the trip thus far.

Going to sleep now and grind more live poker tonight I'd expect.  I have to decide tomorrow whether I'm staying or not for the weekend, I probably will tough it out and stay until Entity and Joe Tall get here on Friday and then go home for a long while on Sunday or Monday.  Hopefully making some money in the process.